Howard Becker Department of Mathematics, University of South Carolina, Columbia, SC 29208. e-mail : becker@math.sc.edu . Title: Ideals without ccc and without property (M) We prove a strong version of a theorem of Balcerzak- Roslanowski-Shelah by showing, in ZFC, that there exists a simply definable Borel sigma-ideal for which both the ccc and property (M) fail. The proof involves Polish group actions.